Sunday, February 6, 2011

That's Just How He Is

Want to know something I hate that I bet has happened to you too? I hate it when you're talking to a group of people and one of them who isn't particularly a friend of yours starts talking about something pretentious and retarded, like what he thinks of people who have never heard of obscure French poets, or how many girls he's slept with, or something. So then later, you remark to someone else who was there who you thought was really a friend of yours but it turns out is at least also really a friend of theirs that you think this particular person seems like a jerk. And then the friend says this:

"Oh no, you don't understand! That's just how he is."

Oh, now I get it, that's just how he is! A jerk.
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  1. Haha, very true. I'm sure I've used that statement before, though...and I think it's been to acknowledge that I am not just ignorant as to what jerks look like. Maybe that phrase is more of "I'm not an idiot, I just have poor taste in friends" disclaimer? I also feel like it's most commonly used by girls about guys, but I'm not sure why.

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  2. Interesting. Perhaps girls excuse guys more easily than they excuse other girls, guys don't actually notice or care one way or the other if girls are pretentious or retarded so it would never even come up, and guys wouldn't say it about another guy in front of girls, so we wouldn't know whether or not they say it.

    That's right, just call me Dr. Freud.

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  3. There is no excuse for being pretentious. Ever. It makes me die a little inside.

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  4. hmm, I guess I would sometimes be a candidate for this type of person (more on dead poets than supine females). You DO NOT want to know what I think about people who think I am a pretentious jerk...:D

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  5. Would you actually be a candidate for that type of person? In that case don't worry, I definitely won't let on what I think about it... to your face, that is. ;p

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  6. well I dont know if my candidacy for being 'that type or person' is a fair appraisal of my character, but I have certainly come across people(mostly females, whatever that means for your gender theory here) who have thought of me as an insensitive and pretentious jerk. personally I find the insensitiveness accusation far more viable than the pretentiousness one. but I am biased.
    and yes, dont tell me to my face, I am sensitive!

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  7. Haha. If you're sensitive, I'm sure you can't be a jerk.

    I would actually say being insensitive is pretty much the same thing as being pretentious, because they both involve ignoring your environment and failing to respond appropriately to the people around you. So if you are one, you are probably the other.

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  8. hmm, I dont think being pretentious involves "ignoring your environment". in fact, I think being pretentious is putting on a deliberate performance aimed at the people surrounding you. This is radically different from being insensitive, which involves not registering the proprieties of interaction in your environment. I can often be guilty of latter but not the former.

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  9. I think you are saying that the difference is that being pretentious is being deliberately insensitive because you think it will impress someone or everyone who is present. But I think that's just a heightened and slightly absurd way of being insensitive because people end up being offended rather than impressed.

    Which means you haven't registered the proprieties of interaction in your environment, which means you are insensitive. If you know what I mean.

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  10. but see, you are by implication conceding that being insensitive is a necessary but not sufficient condition for being pretentious.
    I can accept that, because my point stands: you can be insensitive but not pretentious (because being insensitive is not a sufficient condition for being pretentious).
    Your argument amounts to the claim that you cannot be pretentious unless you are also insensitive. that may well be right, but does not go to counter my claim.

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  11. Sure, I'll give you that. And hey, if what you want to do is try really hard to impress the people you're talking to by looking down on those same people and have them end up thinking you're a jerk, far be it from me to try and stop you. :p

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  12. I know just what you mean :p I should start charging a nickel for every time I am wrongly accused of trying to impress people. That is usually the last thing on my mind, and the first impression I induce on the other side's mind!
    personally I think it is because I am naturally impressive! but then again I am biased.

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  13. But if you see yourself as putting on a show for them, you are trying to impress them. I mean, when I paid $26 to go see The Marriage of Figaro so I wouldn't have to stay home and watch the Superbowl, I was expecting the Canadian Opera Company to try to impress me, which they did try to do. Because, you know, they were putting on a show for me.

    But they weren't being pretentious, because I signed up for a show. I didn't just unknowingly stumble into a totally unpleasant conversation with someone who seems to obviously disrespect my intelligence. Does that make sense? :p

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  14. I totally meant The Magic Flute, not The Marriage of Figaro. It's pretty good, btw.

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  16. agreed on being pretentious and its relation to trying to impress and the relation of the latter with putting on a show. it is again a necessary and not sufficient condition thing.
    I have not been to the opera which is retarded, and I feel soo uncultured and inadequate because of it!! I was afraid of the dress code but I hear that is a myth. no more excuses.

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  17. No need to feel uncultured or inadequate. Not on my account, anyway. :)

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  18. My two cents: I was super-interested to see that there were 17 comments on this thus far, and when I read, even more excited that it was a J. Mo. - Atbeen debate/discussion :)

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